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speedbird1
 Post subject: ATC Flight Plan
PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 10:21 am 
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What is the ATC code required on a flight plan for the T18??
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fytrplt
 Post subject: Re: ATC Flight Plan
PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 12:01 pm 
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speedbird1
 Post subject: Re: ATC Flight Plan
PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:23 pm 
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Thanks Bob,
It is usually 4 figure/numbers ion the ICAO flight Plan which we now use, which is why I ask.

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 Post subject: Re: ATC Flight Plan
PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 4:06 pm 
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I just say, "Tango one eight" to ATC. Might have a dash in it.

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speedbird1
 Post subject: Re: ATC Flight Plan
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On the form or over the telephone they usually ask for four figures, such as my Debonair is a BE33? With no dash, but perhaps they use the dash with the T-18?? When I run mine to to Canada I am sure I will find out.
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DaveDABQ
 Post subject: Re: ATC Flight Plan
PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 9:58 pm 
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The designator is defined as "not longer than four characters, and will generally begin with a letter.' I used to fly a Bellanca Decathlon, and BL8 covered all models of the Decathlon and the Scout. The codes are strictly alpha numeric, no dashes, dots, squiggles...


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speedbird1
 Post subject: Re: ATC Flight Plan
PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 9:45 am 
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Thanks Dave,
Live and learn. I have had my ear bashed for not having 4 letter/numbers, but then perhaps I should have known that the B33 is actually a BE33!!!
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DaveDABQ
 Post subject: Re: ATC Flight Plan
PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 10:41 am 
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There's a chap on YouTube who flies an Ercoupe, and he's always having to phonetically spell out his 'ERCO' designator to ATC! They don't seem to know what an Ercoupe is. BTW, you can probably find the full designator list online. Like any good government-published document, it's probably good for light reading at bedtime!


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 8:54 pm 
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For reference, a PDF file of all the ICAO designators can be found on the ICAO website here::

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://cfapp.icao.int/Doc8643/reports/Part2-By%2520Type%2520Designator(Decode).pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjL4-zb2KfnAhUszjgGHZ4lBJ4QFjAAegQIBxAC&usg=AOvVaw0zoHhXqTpcyFHOqjwwUHUF

The entry for the Thorp is on page 76::

T18 - CLASSIC SPORT, S-18. - L1P L
SUNDERLAND, S-18. - L1P L
THORP, Tiger. - L1P L
THORP, T-18 Tiger. - L1P L


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speedbird1
 Post subject: Re: ATC Flight Plan
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Many thanks, a bit of light reading and the 4 symbol code that I thought.
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DaveDABQ
 Post subject: Re: ATC Flight Plan
PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 12:38 am 
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T18 is the designator. The last column is the aircraft description. L1P L is used on other aircraft on that page, as well. Has to do with weight, type of propulsion (Piston), etc...


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Fraser MacPhee
 Post subject: Re: ATC Flight Plan
PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:35 pm 
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Good point Dave - we are not an Antonov AN-2...:)

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pmandel
 Post subject: Re: ATC Flight Plan
PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2020 12:21 pm 
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Just discovered this handy FAA website:

https://www.icao.int/publications/DOC86 ... earch.aspx

Type Thorp in Manufacturer. The choices are:
T-18
T-211

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leewwalton
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 10:20 am 
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Yes ... but once again so that we're all clear .. the designator is "T18"


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Rich Brazell
 Post subject: Re: ATC Flight Plan
PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 6:06 pm 
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OK...I'll stop using Air Force 1 ! ::)

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