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cw21f
PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 8:02 pm 
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Does anybody have any how-to experience to share with "turning down" the 2" x 0.12 35" 2024 T3 aluminum tube small enough to be inserted into the 2" x .049 main spar tube?
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Pacer 20
PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 8:36 pm 
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Hi!
For my opinion the stabilizer "spar" and the entire stab assembly was the biggest challenge.
I'm turning around during 3 months to find the way and to find the "tubing material" to do the job.
Finally, I order the tube from Eklund Engineering! Expensive, but the quality was perfect.
It's the only part I buy since I start rebuilding my plane.
I hope you have a big lathe!!!

Good luck!

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James Grahn
PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 1:34 am 
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A big issue. I've asked for relief of this design from an engineer. Tough to make.
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fytrplt
PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 7:03 am 
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After the 300 mph tail failure, John Thorp put a lot of money and effort into vibration analysis for this spar mod. It works with the weight distribution of the bob weights on the stab ends and control arm. Lore has it that the horizontal is now "supersonic". Of course, it has not been tested to that limit. All that said, I would not mess with the design, without doing equal or better live testing on an alternative one.

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Hagle347
PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 5:33 pm 
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In talking with Cubes, the issue is that items that were common when John Thorp designed the T-18 are in many cases not being manufactured today. As such- to make future airframes 'fly' it will be necessary to find an alternate means to fabricate parts. The other item that Cubes and I talked about was the extrusion to make the 577 lower rudder attach fitting. Again, that size - not available. It's one thing to have the Thorp parts business, but now to have to 're engineer' and 'test' parts is a whole different animal. Thanks to Cubes for stepping in and making the huge effort to get more airframes into the air.


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Hagle347
PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 5:34 pm 
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Oh, and I heard that Spanky has volunteered to continue the stab testing program when the time comes.....


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Bill Williams
PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2014 3:58 pm 
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I probably have the stock to make the 577 fitting


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Rich Brazell
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If anyone needs the hor. spar tube and doubler , check with John Kerr I believe still has at least one of each and he can tell you how he got the doubler into the main spar tube . ::)


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 2:34 pm 
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Can't remember installing my spar tube reinforcement - it's been quite a while ago now. I can say you don't want a loose fit, but with small clearance I recommend being real careful not to get it stuck only part way in. Aluminum will gall up real easy and can almost "weld" itself together. Be sure parts are wiped down and very clean from grit, etc. Add a little dry lube or something too. To buck the rivets I used a heavy round bar with a flat ground all along the side. Suspended it with the stabilator between two saw horses.

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